What did she lie about? Did I miss something?

Why does Wall Street hate Obama?

I grew up in OKC. Many native Oklahomans claim native American ancestry. It's a common occurrence. My step father told me that he has native American blood and my brother in law has made that claim. Its not a big deal in Oklahoma. In Oklahoma, when someone says their great grandfather was part Indian, the common reply is, "what tribe?"

Warren grew up in a working class neighborhood in OKC. If she used having native American blood to her advantage, so what? Things are tough for working class people. They don't have the luxury of getting staked by their parents. They don't have the luxury of going to prep schools. They can't afford to go to test prep programs.

She has made some money buying foreclosed properties. So what? She wasn't the one doing the foreclosing. She didn't engage in any immoral business practices.

It's unfortunate the some people are trying to smear her. But to me, that means they know that based on the issues, she's the preferred choice.

By the way, how does someone in the National Guard manage to avoid getting called up and sent to Iraq or Afghanistan? Even Biden's son was called up and served. But somehow Brown has managed to evade getting the call to duty when all the other national guardsmen have been doing multiple tours of duty.

How has she not answered it clearly? 1) She said that it was in her family lore. 2) She never used it for personal gain. I don't understand the problem, honestly. I never questioned my mother's statement that our family is part Irish until I did my own geneological work and couldn't find any evidence.

How has she lied? I honestly want to know. There are rumors about this and that, but how has she lied?

You must hate the Republican's, they lie all the time about everything.

When did she take the 5th?

What did she lie about? Did I miss something?

Please, I want to know the facts, not just rumors. When did she lie about what?

you betcha, just a blue-collar irish-italian kid who didn't have to game anything or anyone for my scholarships or progress but did whatever he had to do to achievement and be successful including taking his cloths off everyday in the locker room. Warren has no clue at all about being blue collar or the things you have to do to make it legitimately without gaming the system. She might fool yuppies and liberals but not working class people and those who have been successful by what they do and not what they claim.

Sonny: you think that football is the only sport or that there is something wrong with being gay or were you alluding to Warren's cover up of the lies? She is suppose to be an academic, scholar and researchers; what researcher or scholar would accept the uncorroborated hearsay evidence of a dubious source other than maybe a Globe or NYT reporter. She knew and knows the score and I am an academic and I am telling you she gamed the system. Oh Sonny, you have to suit up if you work as a sand hog or a stevadore not only to pay your college bills but send money home to your folks if you come from a large family; you know that blue collar life that you and Elizabeth Warren know so well.

Vinnie, you are a scholar, you say. Do you have facts rather than rumors and assumptions that she lied? How about sharing the facts with me.

Careful, your tinfoil hat is falling off

Rivka, those leaked emails are a hoax, red-herring by Republicans. You need to check your facts. Also, failing to mention some Republican hoax is not lying. Look up the definition of "liar"

I guess you didn't follow that story about the UK emails. They turned out to not be as reported. Even if that did happen as you say, there are still THOUSANDS of scientists who stand by the evidence, including Defense Department scientists who are dealing with the issues. They all may be mistaken, but to accuse her of lying because she trusts science is hardly a question of integrity.

..."This is all over the Internet, but don't expect the Globe to publish it.
Scott Brown knows this"...

And everyone knows that what is on the internet is never wrong!

Hey Rivka, have you sent in the small handling charge that will release the $800,000 that the Nigerian Prince left you in his will yet? I checked it out on the internet and it said that this inheritance is absolutely real.

I hear your assertions, but like the rest of the accusers, they are baseless. Show me the facts, not your wishes.

By the way, Sally, is it ethical to misstate the truth as you are doing? There is no evidence (Even the Herald admits) of Dr Warren doing any of the things you accuse her of. Ethics are ethics, no matter what you rationalize them to be. Pardon me, but you seem highly unethical to me.

Hey Sallie, us non-whites prefer the term minority, thank you very much.

Should women not vote for Brown since he is against equal pay for women?

Uhhh, yeah, of course you did. Is this all you got?

You accuse HER of being a liar? Look in the mirror. GOP can't win by telling the truth, so they have to manufacture something out of thin, very thin, air.

You missed it Johny boy. She lied to better herself on applications by claiming she was a minority. Probably took a real minorities place by doing so. Is that alright with you?

Then why won't she release her Harvard or Pennsylvania employment applications? Seems like she has something to hide.

I guess I missed that. Fact or rumor?

Actually, she got her start by getting a scholarship To George Washington U as a result of her debating skills. She got her law degree from Rutgers and I'm under the impression that Rutgers is not terribly difficult to get into, so I doubt she needed to rely on her ethnic background to get in.

The National Law Journal has included her as one of the 50 most influential female attorneys in te country and I don't believe ethnicity played a role.

I have found that in order to blunt the inevitable discovery of facts about their own lies, some will accuse their opponents of lying by spreading rumors, not facts. Oldest trick in the book of GOP dirty tricks.

neither female nor/and minority status is the first criterion is hiring for a position at such academic institutions but it most certainly is a "hire with benefits" as a desirable extra and it most definitely is a prime criteria for advancement once hired which is the key and more critical issue and particularly so at these two institutions. You are being more than disingenuous with statements here and if there were no advantages the claim would never have been made and the claim would not be an issue. it clearly was a competitive advantage for promotion and even for a lower promotion standard relative to work quality.

I presume you want to share that Koolaid Maureen? Ah Senator Centerfold but gaming the system is OK with you; hmmm, I wonder why that is.

Vinnie, you lie about being a scholar. I guess you do belong with your GOP phonies after all.

M C--Check your FACTS. The money has been flowing UPWARD, not downward. Redistribution of wealth has been going UP, not down. I have been hearing your mindless, unsupportable drivel since the 60's. Can't you think for yourself? Do you have no respect for the truth? It is inconvenient at times, isn't it? Warren has a splendid record of protecting you and me as consumers. The GOP hates to have her interfere with the continued thievery of the banks. That would cut off their personal ill-gotten wealth as well. Include some Democrats in there too.

It was Bush and republican controlled house and senate that passed the Medicare Prescription drug benefit, considered one of the most fiscally irresponsibly pieces of legislation ever. It was Bush and republican controlled house and senate that passed huge tax cuts while we were in 2 wars. As far as I can tell, it's the republicans that are being fiscally irresponsible.

The unions created the American middle-class. If you take a look at the percentage of the population in unions and percentage of Americans in the middle-class, they rose together since the 1890's and have been shrinking together since the 1970's when the GOP declared war on unions.

So if you liked Robber Barons, Child Labor, lack of Healthcare benefits, 6 day and 60 hour work week and owing your future paychecks to the company store, vote for Wall Street's favorite candidate Scott Brown. We're not too far from bringing back those glorious days of 19th century laissez-faire. Vote GOP!

Bruce I am an independent and not a republican so that will be difficult for you to deal with and I understand and and very familiar with people who game the system for promotion and advancement as opposed to hiring which is clearly the case with Dr. Warren particularly given her definition of mortgage related bankruptcies in what is considered to be one of her crowning works which is so erroneous and flawed that it puffed the stats and the alleged problem beyond belief and was a typical cooking of the books relative to those who do not read or know how to read.
People who game the system will tend to game the voters and the political office system as well which is why all of this is so relevant and important and why ducking the issue and trying to mask it, misrepresent it and round up a group of blockers to run interference on it and what it involves and implies is a problem and ever so telling never mind how loudly elitist complain when they are rightly, fairly, and justly criticized as is evident in these comments.

Talk about blind? Taxes are at their lowest in 50 years. under Obama. Fact. How is Brown on our side protecting WALL STREET? Sounds like he is in the Oligarchy to me.

I thought Brown was on the side of big banks. Trying to shield banks from regulations intended to prevent a repeat of the financial crisis of 2008 is not in the best interest of the middle class.

Bruce, Bruce, Bruce: it depends on how you defines 'taxes' because they are all kinds of taxes and fees and politicians of a certain persuasion have become expert at hiding them and particularly in this state and I have been there in the room watching them try to figure out how to do it to fool people. The more telling figure is disposal or usable income and that my friend is significantly down since the 1950 and at steeper rates in different decades and the last 3 years and for a variety of factors including those people who pay no conventional taxes and you have to trying to "bill' them in other ways in terms of their spending. Most of the political and economic discussion in these comments are not much above the myth and stereotype stage as well as the very uninformed and way behind the curve comments on climate and all of the excessive new regulations needed for increasingly certain myth and junk science. FYI, the founder of the global warming movement recanted last month and said that he and others and particularly Al Gore greatly exaggerated their claims and alleged data and were significantly off in their frantic must do's, which is what several folks at MIT and emerging data have been saying for some time now: but all of the displaced Harvard Square Koolaid drinkers know what is what on all of these points and we should all shut up and just "Listen to Liz."

She will mop the floor with him in a debate.

Mara,

Please show me where you get the 88%. Compare Senator Brown with Senator Kerry. Look at the statistics from the Washington Post for the 112th Senate. Brown has voted with his party only 70% of the time. That tied for 3RD most bipartisan. Kerry's voted the Dem party line 97% of the time. That makes him tied for worst bipartisan/independent voting record in the Senate.
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/112/senate/members/

Guess his name must be Obama Nate if he is in Wall Street's pocket. Such simplistic arguments and views similar to saying that you should stop working with your kids just because they've sinned and made some mistakes and that you must be a sinner and the same if you trying to work with them. Are you sure that you can recognize a 3 digit IQ??

Nate, there's an old saying that bad lawyers become teachers, and bad teachers become politicians (sorta like Warren's path). Our present administration is 70-80% acadamia, so, hands on experience in the real world, is limited. Obama, believe it or not, is a Socialist. If you don't know that by now, but you will in the next few months. And if you know he's a Socialist, and you embrace socialism, that's your choice. I think Ronald Reagan said " A socialist is someone who has read Lenin and Marx. An anti-socialist is someone who UNDERSTANDS Lenin and Marx."
Now, let's get back to Liz. One of the posters said that his mother told him that he was of Irish descent. As time went by, he did some research, and found that his mother was mistaken, or rather misinformed. I guess that Liz didn't check out her Cherokee background until recently. Wouldn't a soon-to-be lawyer, with a 3 digit IQ, check that out before she checked off on the minority box? I mean, if the colleges checked her claim out, and found out that she, ahem, misrepresented herself ((AKA, lie.(there's your lie, Bruce)), would the college even consider accepting her? Did accepting her deprive a real minority (in this case, Cherokee) from being accepted to college or a job? Harvard touts her as being the first "woman of color" in her position at the school. Don't they check out minority claims, or do they ask the paperboy?

Here's something else that's interesting. In real life, don't you want to get ahead, and be rewarded accordingly? Liz is being paid $300+K a year to teach 3 classes. I'm sure that's a huge workload (sorry about the sarcasm. No I'm not), but why would she want to leave the job? She recently made an interest free loan from Harvard (but for what, is unknown), but if she has to make a loan, making 300 large a year, obviously, she needs a higher paying job, AKA, Obama's administration. That's where the gold is. Currently, the salary for Congress is $165,200, approximately half of what she makes now. Is that a step forward? Maybe, if your desire to be called Senator instead of teacher is worth the other half of $165K. That's her choice, but for me, I'd stick with the present $300+K. I don't know what my IQ is, but if I were her, I'd stick with Harvard (unless they toss her for her could-be-false claim ti be a NA). Even if she won, which I seriously doubt, and Obama loses, which I seriously believe, she'd get tossed by the new administration.
It's all in the receipe.

Part 2 of my post is the 1st post - it was too long. I guess I don't have a 3 digit IQ, but bare (bear?) with me.

Oh yes, the poor blond-hared blue-eyed damsel was used and abused by Harvard and tied to those ethnic self-reporting train tracks with that iron horse republican choo-choo just steamy down unmercifully on her ...absolutely and the image of a true feminist when all she had to do at the time was say no and correct any records. but since she didn't inhale everything should be OK, or is she waiting to exhale? Who and where are the trolls deedee. I have nothing but daughters and I certainly would not be pleased to hear this kind of argument or these kinds of claims from any of them. The rampant sexism of Elizabeth Warren and her supporters is something I find more than unattractive and disturbing as well as they convenient amnesia of the recent research on many of the actual reasons there are pay differences between men and women today.

She claimed it Doo Doo. You don't know what a troll is do you. Just because you have a different opinion does not make people trolls. Makes you look like a clown thinking that.

Vinnie, I am aware of the stuff that goes on at all levels regarding funding. Check this and see if it makes sense:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/jun/29/barack-obama/barack-obama-says-tax-rates-are-lowest-1950s-

You sound really hostile toward Ms. Warren. You still haven't shown me any actual evidence of her lying other than rumor and innuendo by the Right. I am retired law enforcement, Violent Crimes Unit, so I am used to gathering factual evidence. By what I have seen so far, I couldn't bring charges on any crime. The ADA would laugh me out of her office! So what's the deal? Why do you persist claiming she gamed the system regarding her ethnicity? Surely experts have turned over every stone and found nothing. Yet folks like you keep the propaganda going. What's up with that?

I believe that this amendment had to do with employers who were religious organizations who you seem to have no problems forcing to your views and beliefs like all I-have-the-absolute-truth types. FYI, I am not a catholic but I do have some respect and tolerance of their rights, particularly relative to the constitution, and what they choose to do with their own money/resources. Forgetting that one does not have to choose to work for them nor that they are not public employers, the whole birth control pills being compulsorily paid for by public funds is an illogical non and unnecessary issue and akin to what many companies to do get their costs put onto the the public payroll and tax base which is also often unethical. We have hundreds of thousands of charities and foundations in this country and very generous tax deductions for giving. No woman in this country every need to go without birth control or pay for it or many other 'health' things if we utilized the charitable mechanism readily available to us, thus eliminating the issue and its associated problems all together. it is only the psychological and political insistence
that birth control and such be paid for with public tax dollars and particularly with the money of those who may ethically disagree with it that we have these kinds of problems and all of the associated authoritarian and excessively emotional rhetoric emotion to go with it due to a deep need to rail against the barbarians and have them submit.

nice attempt with the deflection paint brush Bruce rather than actually answer the arguments, points or check your fact such as "Harvard made me do it" and all of your nonsesnse on Global warming and those emails. Try reading Steven Gould's The Mismeasure of Man and Goggling Cyril Burt on 50 years of IQ data fabrication and falsification to get a clue of the 200 year culture of agenda-driven scientific data fabrication by the British and all of the immense damage it has done, or maybe Christine Sommers Who Stole Feminism particularly chapter 2. As they say about lawyers, there are just not enough trees in Watertown.

You mean the 1% like Warren?