Elizabeth Warren and the Ancestry Issue: What Do You Think? [Poll]

Democratic contender for U.S. Senate seat reportedly acknowledges she told schools of her heritage, but after she was hired.

After weeks of controversy, Elizabeth Warren tells the Boston Globe that yes, she told Harvard and University of Pennsylvania about her Native American ancestry, but says it came up after she was already hired.

The controversy did not sway Democratic Delegates at the State Convention in Springfield, 96 percent of whom voted to endorse Warren for Senate.

What do you think about her actions, how she handled the controversy — and most of all, if or how much that should figure into your vote this fall for either Warren (or her Democratic colleague in the race, Marisa DeFranco) or Republican Sen. Scott Brown?

Tell us by voting in the poll, or be more specific and articulate in the comments section below.

deedee June 07, 2012 at 01:03 PM
I feel there are MANY MANY Scott Brown trolls on this page writing these unflattering comments. FYI Watertown is ALL FOR ELIZABETH. The issue of Elizabeth's heritage is a non-issue, used by Brown to mask his horrible record working for the regular people in MA. Please do your research, trolls.
Ed Kennedy June 07, 2012 at 01:08 PM
..."This is all over the Internet, but don't expect the Globe to publish it. Scott Brown knows this"... And everyone knows that what is on the internet is never wrong! Hey Rivka, have you sent in the small handling charge that will release the $800,000 that the Nigerian Prince left you in his will yet? I checked it out on the internet and it said that this inheritance is absolutely real.
deedee June 07, 2012 at 01:11 PM
TROLLS- explain this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/jun/29/barack-obama/barack-obama-says-tax-rates-are-lowest-1950s-ceos-/
deedee June 07, 2012 at 01:17 PM
Think about it- do you think she'd be stupid enough to think that a blond-haired, blue- eyed, milky-skin person could be believable as a native american??? No. Harvard milked this, not her. I also have Indian roots, as my family told me, from Trois Pistol in Canada, my granny was born to parents with Huron native heritage but it was never discussed in those years, because it was a shameful thing. But I don't claim I'm native american and neither did she! I hate TROLLS.
Ed Kennedy June 07, 2012 at 01:26 PM
The unions created the American middle-class. If you take a look at the percentage of the population in unions and percentage of Americans in the middle-class, they rose together since the 1890's and have been shrinking together since the 1970's when the GOP declared war on unions. So if you liked Robber Barons, Child Labor, lack of Healthcare benefits, 6 day and 60 hour work week and owing your future paychecks to the company store, vote for Wall Street's favorite candidate Scott Brown. We're not too far from bringing back those glorious days of 19th century laissez-faire. Vote GOP!
C. Walker June 07, 2012 at 01:36 PM
I am actually a Watertown, MA, resident, unlike some of the haters blathering on here. I am for Elizabeth Warren. Scott Brown and his minions keep milking this issue, it beats having to talk about where he stands on women's equal pay! Who keeps paper records of ancestors' ethnic heritage? In this country, that is an anomaly. Yet when there is documentation, eg. Obama's birth certificate, it is attacked as "fake."
Claudette June 07, 2012 at 02:08 PM
Thank you Bruce Dame for responding to the idiotic deluded posts. You are right on with every comment, so I will only add that Senator Phony Barn Jacket + Truck is far less a moderate than EW is a Cherokee. He co-sponsored that appalling Blunt Amendment which would allow employers to deny women access to contraceptives in their health insurance if the boss felt it was "against his morals". Bring on the free viagra and let the Middle Class keep shrinking.
Gary M June 07, 2012 at 05:08 PM
Mara, Please show me where you get the 88%. Compare Senator Brown with Senator Kerry. Look at the statistics from the Washington Post for the 112th Senate. Brown has voted with his party only 70% of the time. That tied for 3RD most bipartisan. Kerry's voted the Dem party line 97% of the time. That makes him tied for worst bipartisan/independent voting record in the Senate. http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/112/senate/members/
Vinnie Dummerino June 07, 2012 at 08:09 PM
Bruce I am an independent and not a republican so that will be difficult for you to deal with and I understand and and very familiar with people who game the system for promotion and advancement as opposed to hiring which is clearly the case with Dr. Warren particularly given her definition of mortgage related bankruptcies in what is considered to be one of her crowning works which is so erroneous and flawed that it puffed the stats and the alleged problem beyond belief and was a typical cooking of the books relative to those who do not read or know how to read. People who game the system will tend to game the voters and the political office system as well which is why all of this is so relevant and important and why ducking the issue and trying to mask it, misrepresent it and round up a group of blockers to run interference on it and what it involves and implies is a problem and ever so telling never mind how loudly elitist complain when they are rightly, fairly, and justly criticized as is evident in these comments.
Vinnie Dummerino June 07, 2012 at 08:24 PM
Bruce, Bruce, Bruce: it depends on how you defines 'taxes' because they are all kinds of taxes and fees and politicians of a certain persuasion have become expert at hiding them and particularly in this state and I have been there in the room watching them try to figure out how to do it to fool people. The more telling figure is disposal or usable income and that my friend is significantly down since the 1950 and at steeper rates in different decades and the last 3 years and for a variety of factors including those people who pay no conventional taxes and you have to trying to "bill' them in other ways in terms of their spending. Most of the political and economic discussion in these comments are not much above the myth and stereotype stage as well as the very uninformed and way behind the curve comments on climate and all of the excessive new regulations needed for increasingly certain myth and junk science. FYI, the founder of the global warming movement recanted last month and said that he and others and particularly Al Gore greatly exaggerated their claims and alleged data and were significantly off in their frantic must do's, which is what several folks at MIT and emerging data have been saying for some time now: but all of the displaced Harvard Square Koolaid drinkers know what is what on all of these points and we should all shut up and just "Listen to Liz."
Vinnie Dummerino June 07, 2012 at 08:27 PM
Guess his name must be Obama Nate if he is in Wall Street's pocket. Such simplistic arguments and views similar to saying that you should stop working with your kids just because they've sinned and made some mistakes and that you must be a sinner and the same if you trying to work with them. Are you sure that you can recognize a 3 digit IQ??
Vinnie Dummerino June 07, 2012 at 08:36 PM
Oh yes, the poor blond-hared blue-eyed damsel was used and abused by Harvard and tied to those ethnic self-reporting train tracks with that iron horse republican choo-choo just steamy down unmercifully on her ...absolutely and the image of a true feminist when all she had to do at the time was say no and correct any records. but since she didn't inhale everything should be OK, or is she waiting to exhale? Who and where are the trolls deedee. I have nothing but daughters and I certainly would not be pleased to hear this kind of argument or these kinds of claims from any of them. The rampant sexism of Elizabeth Warren and her supporters is something I find more than unattractive and disturbing as well as they convenient amnesia of the recent research on many of the actual reasons there are pay differences between men and women today.
deedee June 07, 2012 at 08:52 PM
Hey Dummie, Do you even know what a TROLL is????????????
Vinnie Dummerino June 07, 2012 at 08:55 PM
I believe that this amendment had to do with employers who were religious organizations who you seem to have no problems forcing to your views and beliefs like all I-have-the-absolute-truth types. FYI, I am not a catholic but I do have some respect and tolerance of their rights, particularly relative to the constitution, and what they choose to do with their own money/resources. Forgetting that one does not have to choose to work for them nor that they are not public employers, the whole birth control pills being compulsorily paid for by public funds is an illogical non and unnecessary issue and akin to what many companies to do get their costs put onto the the public payroll and tax base which is also often unethical. We have hundreds of thousands of charities and foundations in this country and very generous tax deductions for giving. No woman in this country every need to go without birth control or pay for it or many other 'health' things if we utilized the charitable mechanism readily available to us, thus eliminating the issue and its associated problems all together. it is only the psychological and political insistence that birth control and such be paid for with public tax dollars and particularly with the money of those who may ethically disagree with it that we have these kinds of problems and all of the associated authoritarian and excessively emotional rhetoric emotion to go with it due to a deep need to rail against the barbarians and have them submit.
Bruce Dame June 07, 2012 at 09:34 PM
Vinnie, I am aware of the stuff that goes on at all levels regarding funding. Check this and see if it makes sense: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/jun/29/barack-obama/barack-obama-says-tax-rates-are-lowest-1950s- You sound really hostile toward Ms. Warren. You still haven't shown me any actual evidence of her lying other than rumor and innuendo by the Right. I am retired law enforcement, Violent Crimes Unit, so I am used to gathering factual evidence. By what I have seen so far, I couldn't bring charges on any crime. The ADA would laugh me out of her office! So what's the deal? Why do you persist claiming she gamed the system regarding her ethnicity? Surely experts have turned over every stone and found nothing. Yet folks like you keep the propaganda going. What's up with that?
Bruce Dame June 07, 2012 at 09:47 PM
Vinnie, I admire your athletic history. I couldn't have done what you have. I wish I could admire your thinking process as well, but I just can't. You are simply very careless in your arguments and very vulnerable to propaganda and the spreading of it. I just don't want to take the time and energy needed to address each issue with you. Please don't try to pass yourself off as a scholar. That you are not is obvious at first glance of your thinking writing skills.
Lex H June 07, 2012 at 11:53 PM
As an Independent voter I have been following the campaign closely and I think the Elizabeth Warren ancestry issue is another example of slime tactics. It is a tempest in a teapot and has diverted attention from Scott Brown’s record in the senate. Wall Street’s favorite Senator voted the straight Republican ticket over 75% of the time. Prior to Warren’s entry into the Senate race, he supported Republican legislation 93% of the time. The (Dodd-Frank) law, he voted for, and then worked to shield financial institutions from many of its tough provisions. He also squashed a plan to have financial institutions pay $19 Billion into a FDIC Fund that would cover the cost of any future bailouts. Senator Brown pushed for a change that was finally included in the bill which requires the FDIC to first use taxpayer money to pay for any bailouts, and then try to recover that money from Wall Street by means of a convoluted assessment process. No wonder Brown is Wall Street’s Golden Boy! See the article “How Wall Street Killed Financial Reform 5/10/12.” Warren will get my vote.
Alex Schark June 09, 2012 at 06:35 PM
Nate, there's an old saying that bad lawyers become teachers, and bad teachers become politicians (sorta like Warren's path). Our present administration is 70-80% acadamia, so, hands on experience in the real world, is limited. Obama, believe it or not, is a Socialist. If you don't know that by now, but you will in the next few months. And if you know he's a Socialist, and you embrace socialism, that's your choice. I think Ronald Reagan said " A socialist is someone who has read Lenin and Marx. An anti-socialist is someone who UNDERSTANDS Lenin and Marx." Now, let's get back to Liz. One of the posters said that his mother told him that he was of Irish descent. As time went by, he did some research, and found that his mother was mistaken, or rather misinformed. I guess that Liz didn't check out her Cherokee background until recently. Wouldn't a soon-to-be lawyer, with a 3 digit IQ, check that out before she checked off on the minority box? I mean, if the colleges checked her claim out, and found out that she, ahem, misrepresented herself ((AKA, lie.(there's your lie, Bruce)), would the college even consider accepting her? Did accepting her deprive a real minority (in this case, Cherokee) from being accepted to college or a job? Harvard touts her as being the first "woman of color" in her position at the school. Don't they check out minority claims, or do they ask the paperboy?
Alex Schark June 09, 2012 at 06:36 PM
Here's something else that's interesting. In real life, don't you want to get ahead, and be rewarded accordingly? Liz is being paid $300+K a year to teach 3 classes. I'm sure that's a huge workload (sorry about the sarcasm. No I'm not), but why would she want to leave the job? She recently made an interest free loan from Harvard (but for what, is unknown), but if she has to make a loan, making 300 large a year, obviously, she needs a higher paying job, AKA, Obama's administration. That's where the gold is. Currently, the salary for Congress is $165,200, approximately half of what she makes now. Is that a step forward? Maybe, if your desire to be called Senator instead of teacher is worth the other half of $165K. That's her choice, but for me, I'd stick with the present $300+K. I don't know what my IQ is, but if I were her, I'd stick with Harvard (unless they toss her for her could-be-false claim ti be a NA). Even if she won, which I seriously doubt, and Obama loses, which I seriously believe, she'd get tossed by the new administration. It's all in the receipe.
Alex Schark June 09, 2012 at 06:38 PM
Part 2 of my post is the 1st post - it was too long. I guess I don't have a 3 digit IQ, but bare (bear?) with me.
Gerald Fnord June 12, 2012 at 04:20 PM
Meanwhile, the malefactors of great wealth are watching this and laughing as they loot.
Mark Cain June 12, 2012 at 08:34 PM
She claimed it Doo Doo. You don't know what a troll is do you. Just because you have a different opinion does not make people trolls. Makes you look like a clown thinking that.
Mark Cain June 12, 2012 at 08:37 PM
You mean the 1% like Warren?
Bruce Dame June 12, 2012 at 09:55 PM
Gerald. No doubt! I would like to shrug this GOP crap off, but someone has to point out how rediculous their charges based on rumor are. What I'm delighted about is their blabber is such an obvious fraud. It also amuses me that this is all they got! Shows how really clean she is, and how dirty Brown is! You remember him; the guy that supports laws to enable the rich crooks. Together, they are bringing down the world economy. Yes, let's re-elect him so they can finish the job! "Let the rest perish," isn't that what the sociopath Ayn Rand said? Other sociopaths love her.
Mark Cain June 12, 2012 at 11:00 PM
Pee brain Dems are really going to be crying in their soup when Brown takes her by the same beating that Walker gave in Wisconsin! And the Obammy in November. Get your Kleenex ready you liberal jokes.
Bruce Dame June 13, 2012 at 03:10 AM
Now that is a cogent, factual, intelligent argument. See what the GOP is like? They insult themselves; I don't have to respond in kind.
Mark Cain June 13, 2012 at 03:17 AM
Hey Bruce, is Pocahontas Warren in the so called 1%?
Mark Cain June 13, 2012 at 01:10 PM
Granny a hypocrite! “The problem with running a campaign based on self-righteousness and moral superiority is that you had better live up to the same standard you would impose on everyone else,” http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2875004/posts
Bruce Dame June 13, 2012 at 11:21 PM
I believe so. Is that a problem? I have several friends in the 1% who would welcome reform in the financial systems that would not be to their financial benefit. They don't mind making less since it would benefit our country and society as a whole. The demonizing of the 1% is a rhetorical device that assumes that not everyone in the 1% is simply greedy and sociopathic.
Vinnie Dummerino June 18, 2012 at 03:42 AM
nice attempt with the deflection paint brush Bruce rather than actually answer the arguments, points or check your fact such as "Harvard made me do it" and all of your nonsesnse on Global warming and those emails. Try reading Steven Gould's The Mismeasure of Man and Goggling Cyril Burt on 50 years of IQ data fabrication and falsification to get a clue of the 200 year culture of agenda-driven scientific data fabrication by the British and all of the immense damage it has done, or maybe Christine Sommers Who Stole Feminism particularly chapter 2. As they say about lawyers, there are just not enough trees in Watertown.


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